A quick reminder that at one point Doctor Strange saved the entire universe by ragabaiting Dormammu
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AdditionalBanana95852025-11-04 20:39
Genuinely one of the best cinematic defeats of a villain.
BaronZhiro2025-11-04 21:16
Brains not brawn. It’s probably my favorite showdown in the entire MCU.
PayneTrain1819992025-11-04 23:21
Lex would be proud… until getting Hulk smashed by a dog 10 seconds later
UchihaSukuna12025-11-04 22:01
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InnocentTailor2025-11-04 22:29
I enjoyed Thor: Ragnarok for that as well. Instead of fighting Hela head-on, Thor just allowed the prophecy to be carried out, which ended Asgard alongside Hela’s base of power.
WretchedBlowhard2025-11-05 06:22
I believe she's called Hela. Hel would be the corner of Hell that Odin rents from Mephisto, exclusively reserved for Asgardian souls, in which Hela reigns as the devil. But Taika Waititi shat all over that great bit of world building and instead we have a prison escapee with weird powers that is somehow more powerful than anyone and everyone.
InnocentTailor2025-11-05 06:48
Whoops! I did the correction.
Here2BeeFunny2025-11-05 03:35
You are familiar with the thought experiment the ship of Theseus in the field of identity metaphysics?
UchihaSukuna12025-11-05 08:41
Naturally
Correct_Wash_19082025-11-05 01:52
totally, it hits different when the villain gets such a perfect downfall
Edboy7962025-11-04 20:40
Definitely raga baiting
Isgrimnur2025-11-04 20:49
Very [Indian classical ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raga)
And the universe didn't know what it'd been spared.
Poku1152025-11-05 01:42
"They wont know what you sacrificed" but fitting
--Antitheist--2025-11-04 21:43
All while suffering incredible pain and dying unimaginable deaths an astronomical amount of times.
UchihaSukuna12025-11-04 22:02
Pain's an old friend.
100100wayt2025-11-05 01:38
Someone pointed out he used this as a way to train in magic.
SasquatchRobo2025-11-05 03:40
Ok that is delightfully productive of him
"I'm stuck in a time loop of endless misery, might as well get some practice in while being murdered by an Eldritch god"
LimeheadGames2025-11-04 22:10
Hes lucky the time stone worked in another dimension this time lol
FX1142025-11-04 22:44
A different dimension, but the same universe.
CadeCoquin2025-11-04 22:31
Still one of the best finales to a superhero movie. Love that they thought of something that wasn't just a slugfest between pajama men from outer space.
27Rench272025-11-04 23:22
Given how broken the time stone is and how rarely they’d found themselves able to use it for combat purposes, I actually love how the MCU used it in general
MArcherCD2025-11-04 23:22
After he was murdered maybe literally hundreds of times
Possibly even thousands
Temporary-Exit-52862025-11-05 00:25
And in those thousands of fights, dr strange gained experience fighting dormammu, making him a more capable sorcerer. I always liked this headcannon
MArcherCD2025-11-05 00:28
Even making him a supreme one
JDMagican2025-11-05 00:57
Jian_Rohnson2025-11-05 01:56
Wondering why he never did this to thanos, or used one of the other unbeatable powers he could have used with the time stone
SteveBob3162025-11-05 04:04
He sort of did. He claimed to have gamed out the future with Thanos 14,000,605 times. It probably looked a lot like this from his perspective.
Thanos had some pretty unbeatable powers of his own, don't forget. The Time Stone is big juju but so is every other stone. And that's not to mention the possibilities where winning is worse than losing, which according to Wong is *super* possible with the Time Stone.
Jian_Rohnson2025-11-05 04:17
I guess he stopped JUST short of seeing the possibility where he and Tony switch positions so that Tony can distract Thanos while Strange readies a Time Spell to freeze/fast foward/rewind Thanos.
Or use the time stone at the point where the Cape has the gauntlet stuck and practically inoperable, or seconds before when hes recovering from Starlord exploding a bomb on his back. Or when Nebula engages Thanos.
Point is, theres quite a few points where Strange could have won the fight for the Avengers with the Time Stone but just doesnt? Like once Strange has Thanos locked in time stop, thats it.
SteveBob3162025-11-05 04:19
Maybe? You're also just kind of imagining that Thanos doesn't have any counterplay to it.
Do you know why he didn't just immediately turn everyone there into building blocks and spaghetti? He wasn't doing combat, not really. This was a spiritual trial for him. You escalate, he escalates.
EDIT: (And blocked I guess? Really, you got that salty over *this?* Man.)
Jian_Rohnson2025-11-05 04:27
Im not imagining anything, there's nothing Thanos can do once he's locked in time by the time stone, at least as long as Strange maintains the spell. Unless the Space Stone somehow provides some sort of passive counter to the time stone where it bends space-time just enough to hamper its effects, but as far as im aware, thats not a power thats been established.
What? When was this labeled as a spiritual trial? Him sacrificing Gamora was the spiritual trial, if anything. And regardless, this is a fight for survival for the Avengers, why would they care about his spiritual journey? They would be fighting tooth and nail to stop him
Stormik2025-11-05 09:34
The writers knew what they were doing with the whole "14 million possible futures and we won in only one". Because anytime someone brings up something like this they can just say "oh he tried that in one of those futures but it didn't work".
My headcanon defense for Strange not using the Time Stone is that he just didn't want to risk Thanos getting it. I mean he tried to use it against Maw and it didn't work. If it didn't work against a henchman it's not that wild of him to assume it wouldn't work against the boss either.
But there is one counterpoint to anything anyone can say about how the Avengers could have won in Infinity War - if Thanos didn't wipe out half the universe, Tiamut would destroy the Earth. And that's in-universe canon explanation.
tom-of-the-nora2025-11-05 04:04
Good movie.
Stands on its own really well.
MiddleHoneydew30482025-11-05 05:37
Dormammu I'vE cOmE tO bARgAiN
poopoobuttholes2025-11-05 07:30
Once again, i'm glazing 616 Dr. Strange as being the BEST defender Earth has ever had.
He went through an infinite amount of painful deaths to scare away Dormammu.
He underwent that insane torture at the hands of Ebony Maw without cracking.
His mind underwent 14 mllion++ scenarios (some of them probably spanning ages, since we know he had to look 5 years AFTER a loss just to get the Endgame strat).
And through MoM/What If... we see just how many Stranges have turned out to be evil and yet ours still fights for good despite all the shit he has gone through.
Terry___Mcginnis2025-11-05 07:42
HWR saved It by allowing or making Strange do that. 🤓
Llonkrednaxela2025-11-05 09:22
Dormamu got subjected to the fury of watching the same cutscene over and over again.
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Bunch of radical right-wing gardeners.
"I'm stuck in a time loop of endless misery, might as well get some practice in while being murdered by an Eldritch god"
Possibly even thousands
Thanos had some pretty unbeatable powers of his own, don't forget. The Time Stone is big juju but so is every other stone. And that's not to mention the possibilities where winning is worse than losing, which according to Wong is *super* possible with the Time Stone.
Or use the time stone at the point where the Cape has the gauntlet stuck and practically inoperable, or seconds before when hes recovering from Starlord exploding a bomb on his back. Or when Nebula engages Thanos.
Point is, theres quite a few points where Strange could have won the fight for the Avengers with the Time Stone but just doesnt? Like once Strange has Thanos locked in time stop, thats it.
Do you know why he didn't just immediately turn everyone there into building blocks and spaghetti? He wasn't doing combat, not really. This was a spiritual trial for him. You escalate, he escalates.
EDIT: (And blocked I guess? Really, you got that salty over *this?* Man.)
What? When was this labeled as a spiritual trial? Him sacrificing Gamora was the spiritual trial, if anything. And regardless, this is a fight for survival for the Avengers, why would they care about his spiritual journey? They would be fighting tooth and nail to stop him
My headcanon defense for Strange not using the Time Stone is that he just didn't want to risk Thanos getting it. I mean he tried to use it against Maw and it didn't work. If it didn't work against a henchman it's not that wild of him to assume it wouldn't work against the boss either.
But there is one counterpoint to anything anyone can say about how the Avengers could have won in Infinity War - if Thanos didn't wipe out half the universe, Tiamut would destroy the Earth. And that's in-universe canon explanation.
Stands on its own really well.
He went through an infinite amount of painful deaths to scare away Dormammu.
He underwent that insane torture at the hands of Ebony Maw without cracking.
His mind underwent 14 mllion++ scenarios (some of them probably spanning ages, since we know he had to look 5 years AFTER a loss just to get the Endgame strat).
And through MoM/What If... we see just how many Stranges have turned out to be evil and yet ours still fights for good despite all the shit he has gone through.